Has anyone tried to wrap their head around how this could be done?
First off can the in game announcers be turned off/muted (I haven't checked)?
If so that's a start. Here's my ideas
Live Commentating:
Theory1:
Now we know fight cards allow up to 8 people even though only 6 are fighting. That means there's room for a camera person (assuming that person isn't fighting on the card) and a commentator (also assuming that person isn't fighting on the card). If the camera person turned down the overall volume of the game (along with muted announcers), then set their voice communication output to "speakers" or "both" then that person will pick up the audio from mics. Unfortunately anything the camera person says won't be picked up in the feed. So I was thinking perhaps use the party chat feature... ok bear with me here cause this is a little tough to explain
1-Camera person starts a party chat, he then invites the commentator who's in the game(commentatorA) and a commentator who isn't in the game(CommentatorB).
2-Camera person has it set up to record from speakers so you can hear
3-CommentatorA focuses on the action since he can see it so this commentator would be a play by play
4-CommentatorB focuses on fighter history, previous fights, stats/records, ect... since this person can't see the fight.
Now obviously this is only a problem on a full fight card and CommentatorA will always have priority of commentatorB (like if CB is talking but something happens like a knockout, CA can interrupt at any time).
However if we limit fight cards to 3 fights then we can have 2 live commentators. When the 3 fights are up another card could be set up for the rest of the fights, so we would do a 8 fight card, 3 fights at a time. This would require more organizing using party chat to make sure everyone who is waiting to fight knows they will fight after the current 3 fights are over, especially if all 3 fights go the distance, they could be looking at 45+ minute wait till they fight just sitting in the lobby however they could watch the live broadcast on justin.tv if they are bored.
Theory2:
Another option would be a double streaming of the justin.tv stream. In other words, the camera person in game streams the justin.tv live signal. Then one of the announcers (or a third party producer with software to stream off their desktop), host a skype room while broadcasting the original stream of the fight along with the audio from skype. This frees up the logistic nightmare of commentating however it might lead to further degredation of the original stream since it would be restreamed by justin.tv and compressed even more.
Advantages - honest nature of a live broadcast, there would be no need to fake excitement or disbelief since the commentating would be going on live.
Disadvantages- Commentators could drop the ball or say the wrong thing or let out a curse (it is live TV afterall). The commentators couldn't fight on the card or if they did fight, they couldn't commentate their own fight (I know I can't talk and fight at the same time).
Non-live Commentary:
This would be done after the initial broadcast. Someone would need to take the Justin.TV stream and record the whole video. Then get the other commentators on skype and try to sync up both videos by pressing play at the same time (so neither commentator is ahead). The 2nd commentator would be watching the stream at the same time as the 1st commentator but the 1st commentator is recording the commentary and will later edit it into the footage captured from the justin.tv stream and then upload it somewhere.
Advantages- since it's all recorded, a intro using the OMMA logo as well as bumps for fighters (like in prideFC) can be added in and the production value could be higher. To help simulate a live feel, the announcers would have no knowledge as to how the fight happened and should announce while watching the fight for the first time. That doesn't mean there can't be some scripting in the commentary either if someone flubbed something or coughed, that could be edited out.
Disadvantages- It's another show and the live broadcast will suffer since it will just be fighter sound effects. Odds are people aren't going to watch the produced version if they already watched the live broadcast.
That's all I can think of about this, neither option is perfect but I would prefer trying to get the commentary live with theory1 and perhaps working out a way of sharing commentator responsibilities so that commentators could fight and have someone take over for them during their fight unless that person is comfortable commentating his own fight but I doubt people will have fun talking about themselves in third person and paying attention to their opponent.
First off can the in game announcers be turned off/muted (I haven't checked)?
If so that's a start. Here's my ideas
Live Commentating:
Theory1:
Now we know fight cards allow up to 8 people even though only 6 are fighting. That means there's room for a camera person (assuming that person isn't fighting on the card) and a commentator (also assuming that person isn't fighting on the card). If the camera person turned down the overall volume of the game (along with muted announcers), then set their voice communication output to "speakers" or "both" then that person will pick up the audio from mics. Unfortunately anything the camera person says won't be picked up in the feed. So I was thinking perhaps use the party chat feature... ok bear with me here cause this is a little tough to explain
1-Camera person starts a party chat, he then invites the commentator who's in the game(commentatorA) and a commentator who isn't in the game(CommentatorB).
2-Camera person has it set up to record from speakers so you can hear
3-CommentatorA focuses on the action since he can see it so this commentator would be a play by play
4-CommentatorB focuses on fighter history, previous fights, stats/records, ect... since this person can't see the fight.
Now obviously this is only a problem on a full fight card and CommentatorA will always have priority of commentatorB (like if CB is talking but something happens like a knockout, CA can interrupt at any time).
However if we limit fight cards to 3 fights then we can have 2 live commentators. When the 3 fights are up another card could be set up for the rest of the fights, so we would do a 8 fight card, 3 fights at a time. This would require more organizing using party chat to make sure everyone who is waiting to fight knows they will fight after the current 3 fights are over, especially if all 3 fights go the distance, they could be looking at 45+ minute wait till they fight just sitting in the lobby however they could watch the live broadcast on justin.tv if they are bored.
Theory2:
Another option would be a double streaming of the justin.tv stream. In other words, the camera person in game streams the justin.tv live signal. Then one of the announcers (or a third party producer with software to stream off their desktop), host a skype room while broadcasting the original stream of the fight along with the audio from skype. This frees up the logistic nightmare of commentating however it might lead to further degredation of the original stream since it would be restreamed by justin.tv and compressed even more.
Advantages - honest nature of a live broadcast, there would be no need to fake excitement or disbelief since the commentating would be going on live.
Disadvantages- Commentators could drop the ball or say the wrong thing or let out a curse (it is live TV afterall). The commentators couldn't fight on the card or if they did fight, they couldn't commentate their own fight (I know I can't talk and fight at the same time).
Non-live Commentary:
This would be done after the initial broadcast. Someone would need to take the Justin.TV stream and record the whole video. Then get the other commentators on skype and try to sync up both videos by pressing play at the same time (so neither commentator is ahead). The 2nd commentator would be watching the stream at the same time as the 1st commentator but the 1st commentator is recording the commentary and will later edit it into the footage captured from the justin.tv stream and then upload it somewhere.
Advantages- since it's all recorded, a intro using the OMMA logo as well as bumps for fighters (like in prideFC) can be added in and the production value could be higher. To help simulate a live feel, the announcers would have no knowledge as to how the fight happened and should announce while watching the fight for the first time. That doesn't mean there can't be some scripting in the commentary either if someone flubbed something or coughed, that could be edited out.
Disadvantages- It's another show and the live broadcast will suffer since it will just be fighter sound effects. Odds are people aren't going to watch the produced version if they already watched the live broadcast.
That's all I can think of about this, neither option is perfect but I would prefer trying to get the commentary live with theory1 and perhaps working out a way of sharing commentator responsibilities so that commentators could fight and have someone take over for them during their fight unless that person is comfortable commentating his own fight but I doubt people will have fun talking about themselves in third person and paying attention to their opponent.